{"id":2657,"date":"2012-08-15T15:46:33","date_gmt":"2012-08-15T15:46:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/socamom.com\/w\/where-are-you-from-the-olympics-and-question-of-national-origin-citizenship-and-belonging-for-caribbean-americans\/"},"modified":"2023-09-04T20:42:02","modified_gmt":"2023-09-05T02:42:02","slug":"where-are-you-from-the-olympics-and-question-of-national-origin-citizenship-and-belonging-for-caribbean-americans","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/socamom.com\/w\/where-are-you-from-the-olympics-and-question-of-national-origin-citizenship-and-belonging-for-caribbean-americans\/","title":{"rendered":"Where Are You FROM: The Olympics and Question of National Origin, Citizenship, and Belonging for Caribbean Americans"},"content":{"rendered":"

You don\u2019t count. You aren’t “regular” black.<\/strong><\/p>\n

<\/strong><\/p>\n

See, that is where it started.\u00a0 I went to schools where my brother and I were the entire black population at times, and my white friends \u2013 who had met my parents \u2013 decided that I wasn\u2019t black.\u00a0 I wasn\u2019t \u201cregular\u201d black because my parents were from another country.\u00a0 That is how they justified the differences between me and other black people that their parents wouldn\u2019t dare have in their homes.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t \u201csound\u201d black, my parents were foreigners, so to the kids in my school \u2013 some of them anyway \u2013 I didn\u2019t count as black. <\/em><\/p>\n

Living in the south, I rarely had contact with Caribbean people outside of my family, and trips to Carnival celebrations in America.\u00a0 When I moved to the DC area, I was with family again.\u00a0 When I branched out on my own, my identity again came into question.<\/p>\n

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\"Samyr<\/p>\n

Here\u2019s how the conversation usually goes:<\/span><\/p>\n

Them: Where are you from?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Me: My parents are from Trinidad and Tobago.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Them: Ohhhhh\u2026 so you BORN HERE?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Me: Yes.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Them: Mmmmm Hmmmm. Do you visit?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Me: I haven\u2019t been there in 20 years.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Them: Mmmmm Hmmmm.<\/strong><\/p>\n

And that\u2019s where the interrogation begins.\u00a0 So YOU are SocaMom, and you were born here? Really?\u00a0 Then I am expected to prove how much I know about the food I grew up eating, the music I grew up listening to, my mom\u2019s hometown, my parent\u2019s high schools, down to the street they lived on and the neighborhood crew my uncle beat pan with.\u00a0 It is like I have to prove my island cred (giggling at my own random gang reference).<\/strong><\/p>\n

Some people are just WAITING for me to say, \u201cI don\u2019t know,\u201d so they can blast me for claiming affiliation nation I know nothing about.\u00a0 Truth is, I only know about how MY family does things, and where WE are from. \u00a0No matter what anyone says, I count.\u00a0 I am an Afro-Caribbean American\u2026 yep \u2013 that is the set I am claiming (another gang reference that makes me laugh at how hard core I am\u2026 not.).<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"The<\/strong><\/p>\n

The Caribbean and Latin America cleaned up on medals at the London Olympic games.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Brazil: 3 gold, 5 silver, 9 bronze<\/p>\n

Dominican Republic: 1 gold, 1 silver<\/p>\n

Trinidad and Tobago: 1 gold, 3 silver<\/p>\n

Bahamas: 1 gold<\/p>\n

Grenada: 1 gold<\/p>\n

Venezuela: 1 gold<\/p>\n

Puerto Rico: 1 silver, 1 bronze<\/p>\n

I cheered for America \u2013 I cheered for the Caribbean.<\/strong> Funny thing is \u2013 people like me \u2013 born in the US or Canada with parents (and sometimes grandparents) born in the Caribbean, competed for their \u201chome countries\u201d in the Olympics.<\/p>\n

Marlena Wesh: \u00a0born in Virginia, competed for Haiti<\/p>\n

Samyr Laine: \u00a0born in New York, competed for Haiti<\/p>\n

Moise Joseph: \u00a0born in Florida, competed for Haiti<\/p>\n

Karin O\u2019Reilly Clash: \u00a0born in Costa Rica, competed for Antigua and Barbuda<\/p>\n

Derrick Atkins: \u00a0born in Jamaica, competed for the Bahamas<\/p>\n

Tolga Akcayli: born in England, competed for St. Vincent and the Grenadines<\/p>\n

Wayne Davis: \u00a0born in North Carolina, competed for Trinidad and Tobago<\/p>\n

Jarron Solomon (bronze in 4 x 100): born in New Mexico, competed for Trinidad and Tobago<\/p>\n

Carlos Suarez: born in Ohio, competed for Trinidad and Tobago<\/p>\n

Samantha Albert, born in Canada, competed for Jamaica<\/p>\n

I wonder if those people who turn their noses up at US born people of Caribbean descent cheered less for those Caribbean American athletes. Probably not.\u00a0 For many children growing up in America, being reared by Caribbean and Latino parents, when you get home, it is like stepping back onto the soil of your \u201chome country.\u201d<\/strong> Parents are quick to tell their kids that they can\u2019t behave like their American counterparts.\u00a0 Many kids who never set foot in the countries where their parents grew up (this is true of many immigrant families) speak the language, eat the food, and practice the customs of their parents and sometimes grandparents\u2019 countries.<\/p>\n

Patois speaking Harvard law school graduate \u2013 and former roommate of Facebook creator Mark Zuckerberg, Samyr Lane, was 26 when he went to Haiti for the first time \u2013 a country that he represented in the 2012 Olympics in London.<\/p>\n

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\u201cI would say it was more like a Haitian raised in the U.S., rather than an American choosing to compete with Haiti\u2026 After the earthquake happened, and at 26 years old, there\u2019s not much my mother could do\u2026 As a Haitian-American, the culture has always been near and dear to me\u2026I\u2019ve had moments of wavering commitment, but they\u2019ve been few and far between\u2026 There have been opportunities that were hard to pass up, but those will be there in the future. Right now, I have an incredible opportunity to do what I love while being able to talk about Haiti and Haitian athletics. It\u2019s all just to inspire.\u201d \u2013 Samyr Laine<\/p>\n

7 Haitian born Olympians died in the recent earthquake.\u00a0The Olympic committee in Haiti was unable to provide him any significant financial support.<\/strong><\/p>\n

You would think that these models of immigrant success would want to identify with the country that allows them to reach their full potential. <\/strong> In our home countries, many Caribbean people would never be able to reach the level of education and success that we have been able to achieve in America.\u00a0 Truth is, the values and culture of our countries of origin have an immeasurable impact on the success we have here in the states.<\/p>\n

I think it is a matter of national pride. Some people think it is a cop out.<\/strong><\/p>\n

The US regularly leads the race for medals in the Olympics.\u00a0 It is complicated.\u00a0 If you check the backgrounds of the athletes competing, just because of the nature of the American population, many have parents and grandparents from other nations.\u00a0 Is that why America is at the top of the leader board?\u00a0 Is it because we have some of the best athletic training facilities in the world, both public and private?<\/p>\n

The Olympic Charter clearly states \u201cThe Olympic Games are competitions between athletes in individual or team events and not between countries.\u201d <\/strong> I think that is to keep wars from starting over friendly sporting competition, but the fact that on London2012.com, EVERYTHING is broken up by country\u2026 flags are everywhere\u2026 and national pride is encouraged, seems that they know it is all about where you\u2019re from.<\/p>\n

So how do people with citizenship that differs from the country they are representing at the games do that?<\/strong><\/p>\n

According to the Olympic charter you have to be a national of the country that is entering you as a representative.\u00a0 Nationals of more than one country, can pick one. So, what is a national?\u00a0 According to Wikipedia.com, a national is \u201cA\u00a0citizen or subject of a country; by inference, frequently a person who owes loyalty to a country but lacks full membership in it, a non-citizen resident\u201d.<\/p>\n

And \u2013 bottom line, according to the Olympic Charter, \u201call matters relating to the determination of the country which a competitor may represent in the Olympic Games shall be resolved by the IOC Executive Board.\u201d So basically, you can represent any country you have ties with, as long as the International Olympic Committee is fine with it.\u00a0 Athletes, especially American born ones, have gotten flack for competing for countries they have never been to, and know nothing about, presumably because they wouldn\u2019t qualify for the American Olympic team.\u00a0 Only the athlete knows why they compete under what flag.<\/p>\n

In some circles, sometimes with people who haven\u2019t been to their home countries in twice as many years as myself, I am still an outsider \u2013 just because my parents chose America for school.\u00a0 In other circles, I feel snatched up and hugged\u2026 it is almost like that famous scene from the Color Purple.<\/strong><\/p>\n

I was at an event this weekend where the majority of the women there were from a Caribbean country.\u00a0 When we went around the table to say where we were from, one woman put down her salt fish cake and says she is from Illinois\u2026 There was a pause, and someone says \u2013 \u201cWe all family.\u201d\u00a0 It was beautiful.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Many of the athletes representing Caribbean countries were educated and trained in their sport at American colleges and universities, but it all comes back to what they believe home is, and the place it has in their hearts\u2026 and home is where the heart is.<\/strong><\/p>\n

For discussion…<\/strong><\/p>\n

If you could represent a country at the Olympics, would it be America or your home country? Why or why not?<\/span><\/p>\n

Do you think it is fair for Olympians to be able to choose what country they represent?<\/span><\/p>\n

Do you feel like the \u201cmelting pot\u201d makeup of the United States gives it an unfair advantage in the Olympics? Are the actual countries represented, or is the wealth and priviledge of America on display (best facilities, best coaches \u2013 often foreign born as well)?<\/span><\/p>\n

Do you think that most of the athletes who represented other countries genuinely did it as a display of national pride or because they couldn\u2019t qualify for an Olympic team any other way?<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

You don\u2019t count. You aren’t “regular” black.<\/strong><\/p>\n

<\/strong><\/p>\n

See, that is where it started.\u00a0 I went to schools where my brother and I were the entire black population at times, and my white friends \u2013 who had met my parents \u2013 decided that I wasn\u2019t black.\u00a0 I wasn\u2019t \u201cregular\u201d black because my parents were from another country.\u00a0 That is how they justified the differences between me and other black people that their parents wouldn\u2019t dare have in their homes.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t \u201csound\u201d black, my parents were foreigners, so to the kids in my school \u2013 some of them anyway \u2013 I didn\u2019t count as black. <\/em><\/p>\n

Living in the south, I rarely had contact with Caribbean people outside of my family, and trips to Carnival celebrations in America.\u00a0 When I moved to the DC area, I was with family again.\u00a0 When I branched out on my own, my identity again came into question.<\/p>\n

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